I am looking to help my son put together his first PC and working on parts selection.
Here is the build list (PDF attached).
Please rate my build and let me know where I can potentially do better and/or save money. He is primarily playing Minecraft and Roblox, Since he is 8 years old, won't be playing FPS games yet.
What I am particularly confused and unsure on is my choice of motherboard and SSD. I chose the motherboard because it was the cheapest option that offered DDR5 ram. I don't think im lacking in any other features as it has usb 3.x and don't need wifi on the board.
For the SSDs, I chose two. a smaller 500GB for the core install of windows and any core programs to run and the 2TB SSD where data, games, etc will be installed.
The i5 level is better for games like Minecraft and Roblox. And a 3070 is especially overkill for those two. My 5950X and 6800XT are practically sleeping while running Minecraft at 4K. A 12400 paired with a 3060 would save you a lot.
Thank you all for the helpful comments!
what about the NVME SSD? Is a 256gb standalone enough for an OS + core programs and a separate SSD for games?
i remember not being able to install certain programs on a separate hard drive from the OS (ie solid works) for some reason.
nvme is about 10x faster so get the largest you can afford now and only add a sata type ssd later when you need more space.
thank you all for the inputs! Updated the list but having a few choice issues.
Motherboard: I cant find the Cpu / MOBO deal online or in the build part list.. and therefore can't find the right motherboard. Would like to know which board it is and just using the ASUS ROG as a placeholder so I can choose other components.
Anyone have specific suggestions on a mobo? I don't plan on expansion other than possibly a second SSD if somehow 1 or 2 TB is not enough. Originally I planned a dedicated SSD for the OS + core programs and a data SSD for games, but I guess NVME2 makes that setup obsolete? Motherboards I am the least knowledgeable on and since I don't really need wifi or DDR5, not sure how to separate out motherboards other than size, which does not matter to me.
GPU: I was going to go with a 3070 but I found some really good deals for used 3080's I can shop around for, especially for the 10G versions. I know it's overkill, but at around $500 I think it's a pretty good deal considering people selling out of crypto rigs. So the 3080 there is a placeholder as well. Any reason to counter this proposal for hunting down a 3080 for approximately $500, +/- $75?
SSD NVME2: I found the inland ones but there is a performance and performance plus. Haven't looked much into the differences yet, but anyone have good experience with inland SSDs vs premium Samsungs? It's a small savings there and NVME2 is faster than standard SSD , so I'm interested in knowing more about getting brand here vs trying inland.
thanks @1Bored_soul_editor for pointing me in the right direction. Wow.. these deals are really great. and it think I narrowed it down to either to 4 selections but 2 of DDR4 and DDR5
(Sorry, board won't let me post links)
DDR 4:ASUS z690-p prime wifi DDR4 or the ASUS z690-plus-TUF ddr4
DDR5: Asus z690-p-prime DDR5 or the Asus z690-plus TUF
Since price is all the same essentially with the combo deal, it seems like it's the prime P versions vs the TUF versions.
Anyone have any insight as I read through the spec differences? Is there really not a reason to upgrade to DDR5 right now since the cost is a lot less of a factor right now?
*Post edit- I think I am narrowd down to the TUF series but still DDR4 vs DDR5. I chose the TUF simply due to more USB IO available. The extra PCIe slots on the 690-P aren't necessary for me because I don't plan on adding any secondary GPU. Don't know what else I'd use those slots for.
I am seeing mixed reports about DDR5 but it mainly comes down to very incremental performance with additional cost. For me, I think software fixes later in the future will alleviate the DDR5 issues and the cost for me is not that much more of a hindrance. In fact thanks to the board I was able to get a huge savings on the mono / cpu deal itself.
This is the near finalized build list. Again, a huge thank you to this community for the help! The price listed there is not accurate As it does not take any advantage of any market deals at this time.
the PC parts chooser actually isn't helping with choosing the correct heatsink...anyone have suggestions here?
heh @1Bored_soul_editor ! my son's birthday is next week and everything is finally in stock, ready for pick up. here is the list! I had to get the darkrock pro in store vs amazon because shipping wouldn't have been in time. 20 bucks more but that's okay since I won't be available outside of a week window.
All he needs to do is pick out his computer case in store!
Can you think of anything missing from this list that'll prevent us from building and going? I don't have an optical drive but I got a USB dvd reader I can plug in on the side for the OS install.
Yep! We’re 99% done!..l have some issues so I’m starting a new thread. I don’t know if RAM is bad, mobo is bad or instructions are bad.
from the picture you have the memory in the wrong slots. move the one on the left over one space, so there is: cpu, empty slot, memory module, empty slot, memory module.
The two fans really close to each other, the one in the rear of the case and the one kinda hanging off the left of the cpu cooler look like they are blowing in opposite directions. with barely an inch between them, it would be better if they blew the same direction. But anyway it looks like the clip that's supposed to hold the one onto the cooler has come off and the fan is just resting on the graphics card. the one in the center of the cooler towers should also blow the same direction but i can't see which way it is set.
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